What Makes Kentucky Kentucky When The Derby Starts

We bring Kentucky Derby energy to the mic and talk about why this race hits different when bourbon tradition is part of the build-up. Along the way we trade Woodford Reserve notes, argue cocktail culture, and lock in our picks for win, place, and show.

• Kentucky Derby history and why it feels like a full-day event 
• Woodford Reserve as the official Derby bourbon and what makes the annual releases fun 
• Double Oaked flavour notes and why proof and barrel picks matter 
• Bourbon versus the Derby as Kentucky’s biggest cultural signal 
• Mint julep facts plus the case for skipping the mix and sipping good bourbon 
• Derby legends like Secretariat and the Triple Crown context 
• Watching on TV versus being there in person 
• Betting basics including win, place, show and why long shots are tempting 
• Our final picks for Saturday plus the bourbons we would pair with a win 

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The Kentucky Derby is only two minutes long, but the build-up is a full-day rollercoaster and bourbon is part of the reason. We lean into the history, the hype, and the Kentucky pride that makes Churchill Downs feel like a national stage, then we follow the trail straight into what’s in your glass. From Woodford Reserve’s role as the official bourbon of the Kentucky Derby to the way commemorative bottles and barrel picks turn into traditions of their own, we keep it grounded, curious, and opinionated.

We also get honest about Derby drinking culture. Is Derby Day really about sipping bourbon neat, or is it built for cocktails and pageantry? We talk mint juleps, the silver cup, the staggering weekend numbers behind the “official drink,” and why some bourbon fans would rather pour a great whiskey and skip the sugar and mint entirely. Along the way, our friend Greg Snyder drops helpful Woodford Reserve facts and a memorable julep take that you will not forget.

Then we shift to what everyone secretly came for: betting and picks. We break down the basics of win, place, and show, why exacta and trifecta bets pull people in, and why long shots are often the most fun way to ride the Derby. After we walk through the odds board, we lock in our choices and even match a celebratory bourbon to our winning horse, because that’s how you turn a race into a ritual.

If you’re watching from home, hosting a Derby party, or just looking for a smarter way to enjoy Kentucky Derby bourbon season, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a bourbon friend, and leave a review so more people can find the show.

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Transcript

Why The Derby Feels Like Kentucky

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SPEAKER_02 3:43

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SPEAKER_01 3:46

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SPEAKER_02 3:51

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SPEAKER_01 3:59

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SPEAKER_10 4:09

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Yeah, there you go. That'll work.

Woodford Reserve And Derby Tradition

SPEAKER_01 4:23

Okay, and then so oh I well, you guys are there, so we'll just go like that. We'll just just go right for the podcast. All right, now you're not froze up. All right, so tonight we're not just talking horses, we're talking history, we're talking tradition, and we're talking bourbon because there is no event in America where whiskey and culture collide like the Kentucky Derby. Since 1875 at Churchill Downs, this race has been more uh has been about more than speed. It's about celebration and what's in your glass. Mint juleps, barrels, rick houses, millionaires, and long shots. Tonight's Super Nash, Marcus Nash, and I are breaking it all down and giving you our picks for Saturday. Woo! Yes. So one thing that we're gonna be doing tonight is we got Woodford. Woodford was a we're gonna give you a little bit of uh history on the pot uh tonight on the podcast, you know, like the first derby was 1875, the founder was Meriwether Lewis Clark Jr., inspired by European horse race traditions, longest continuously held sporting event in the U.S., which is freaking phenomenal. This is the 152nd running, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

You are correct.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

So, you know, it's kind of like uh at one point the you know, old Forester used to be it, right? And then you also and then you also had you also have the the Crown Royal too, I think, at one time. The Blantons, you know, you got the Blantons going with the with the horse toppers, and I know that every year not only does Woodford Reserve release that that Kentucky Derby, but so does other distilleries, such as yeah, Blanton has their special release of their their Kentucky Derby bottle, and so and so and so does Makers Mark. Makersmark usually does a derby bottle themselves. So that you know, there's a lot of good stuff like that going on, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:31

Yep, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

The derby is only two minutes long, it's the most exciting two minutes in sports. I mean, there's an all-day lead up for it. It's like it's almost like you get the same amount, but but there are races before the derby. You know, that's kind of like, and I learned that last year when I was on my Spire's betting app, and I did predict the winner, so I was able to turn, I believe, uh a small measly ten dollar bet into$100, so that was kind of cool. But you know, the it's like so exciting. Did you know the winner gets a blanket of 554 roses?

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Hey, uh Greg Snyder is on with us watching, and he said that he could tell us quite a little quite a bit about uh Woodford Reserve.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

Well, you could um let him as we keep going. When he does, you guys got the comments. I do not, so make sure that we m when when Marcus, if someone comes on and you see they're watching, make sure we get to say hi.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

So that's good.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

And thanks, Greg, for tuning in and definitely tell us all all you want about Woodford Reserve.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

So it's kind of like I gotta get something in my glass. So one of the cool things is is we do have these these cool glasses, me and you both. You're you tonight are on the road. Thank you guys for doing this. But our wives, our wives were able to obtain these bottles, and I think they are these these um hand-painted glasses. And is he drinking out of the wood the wood cup?

SPEAKER_02 8:21

No, I'm drinking out of the wood cup. He's drinking out of the aluminum alumicarin.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

The aluminicarin?

SPEAKER_02 8:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Okay, his aluminicarin looks looks like aluminum blend caron. I actually keep finding oh, so so I wanted to tell you this. What one of the cool things today, uh, you know, it's the Kentucky Derby's coming up, and I've I'm digging through the Amazon, and there was a lot of stuff in the Amazon, but look what look what came in a grouping of four.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

You know what that is?

SPEAKER_02 8:55

Yeah, that's from Laden Bow.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

But that's also a julep cup, they're called julep cups. Yep. So I actually today, before our Kentucky Bourbon, picked up a set of four mint julep cups with the muddler.

unknown 9:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

So isn't I'm gonna be drinking out of my my uh mint julep cup in a s in a second, along with my derby glass. But Woodford Reserve, you know, is gonna be, you know, they sponsor it. But the the event is it has as much lead up as the Super Bowl, right? But the lead up to the Super Bowl is a you know a three-hour game. With the halftime, it's probably three and a half hours now, you know, now that they throw in that. So when you think about it, it's kind of a unique uh thing that you're you have a lead up with all these races going into the Kentucky Derby in the whole day. Rain always makes it fun. So let's hope that there's not a lot of rain. I think there's not rain predicted, but at the same time, you get to get to see the horses and the odds move a little bit, and you you know, you get to learn who the owners are on the pregame. So it's a lot of fun, and it's a good day to be drinking Woodford Reserve.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

I wholeheartedly agree. Anyways, I'm just texting back to our good friend Greg Schneider, just telling him cheers from Adele, Georgia.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

So tonight I've got a bunch of Woodfords. I love Woodford Double Oak. So on Derby Day, I'm always doing Woodford Double Oak. I, you know, the 94, but one of the cool things that Ohio came up out with, and I had to get this, but this was Woodford, because Woodford Double Oak, the regular Woodford Double Oak, and the pick we did for the Scotchy we for Kentucky Bourbon Festival that I was, it is the same thing. It is 90.4. It's the same. That was the Kentucky. We picked the batch and got that pick. But the single barrel that we picked that was picked by OHLQ this year comes in at 96.13 barrel proof. Now that tells you a lot about what Woodford is doing at 96.13 barrel proof. Right? Yep.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

So, I mean, barrel proof is only two getting a little older and losing a little bit of water, and uh proof is coming up.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Yeah, but the 94.2 is you wouldn't consider barrel proof, but the fact that they are producing they that that has to tell you they're either putting in a really low entry proof for Woodford when they go in, or they're basically aging it on the bottom floor, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:34

Yeah, or yeah, a lot of right now.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

But I think when it comes to a butterscotch flavor, the Woodford double oak is one of my favorites. I always get the the caramel butterscotch flavor. I just love it.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

Yeah, I didn't want to talk to her about Woodford in the double oak. In the bar. In the supernovae bar.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

So so we're gonna take so what is bigger? Bourbon in Kentucky or the Kentucky Derby? You can take your point and I'll argue it.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Well, I don't honestly we're talking beggars for fans build-up, and I mean it's just a longer tradition. So I'm gonna have to say it's Kentucky Derby.

SPEAKER_10 13:42

So I would have to do I would have to disagree because I just think the bourbon, there's a lot of people that love the bourbon that can care less about the horses. I personally like the excitement of the races.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

I I like both as far as the excitement of the race and and the but but when he says the the the Derby's 152 years old, okay? That puts you back at, I believe they said 1878. Is that what it 1875? So we're at 1875, and you're telling me that Jacob Beam wasn't making bourbon in 1792, is it? I think he was. I mean, so we're talking uh we're talking about bourbon's been around a lot longer than the Kentucky Derby.

SPEAKER_02 14:29

Now I'm gonna argue I thought we were talking about events. Now we're talking about the Halloween.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

What bur what what bourbon event were you comparing? Wait, the tradition. What bourbon event are you talking about? It's just what wait, what what compare okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

I thought you said we were talking about Kentucky Bourbon Festival or the Kentucky Derby.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Oh no, we weren't talking about no Kentucky Bourbon Festival is in there. We were talking about Kentucky Bourbon versus the Derby. And I think Marcus had the right.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

I misunderstood. We're talking about the whole butt of Kentucky Bourbon, then I'd be Kentucky Bourbon. I would plainly say Kentucky Bourbon, but lower rated than are you home? Right walking upstairs again.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

That's real walking. That was like she's on the phone, so she's not gonna respond. But yeah, I would say from a standpoint like urban industry in in itself is uh no, but but I would say the the the the race is big and I I I think when it comes to Kentucky it's close what makes them famous, right? Because there's a certain amount of people, I I think when it comes to horse racing, this event is so what would you say? It brings people together. I mean, the Kentucky Derby, there's nothing negative about it. I suppose there are people, the animal lovers, maybe PETA's against it, right? Um but other than that, I mean it has its own controversies, it has it's you know, it's it's well, and I I I take it back. There's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that people might not like. I mean, but but with the advent of sports gambling now on your on your uh phone, yeah, you can I mean it makes it a whole different experience when it's happening. Now, you were you guys are gonna be where are you gonna be for the derby?

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Here in Adele, Georgia.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

I mean, but where? Are you gonna be watching it? Are you guys gonna be doing something different?

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Yeah, we'll probably hopefully we'll be watching it here at the hotel.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

We'll probably are being in forecast for a rain delay on Saturday. So that'll be good. So if it happens, if it starts raining maybe about five or six o'clock, we'll get most of the race and racing and qualifying in.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Is the race Sunday?

SPEAKER_02 17:29

It's Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

No, but the actual race. I mean, if you're talking about qualifying, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

Yeah, the semifinals and the finals will be uh on Sunday.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

So if if you didn't know this, the official drink of the Derby since 1938 is in this fun silver cup. The ingredients are bourbon, sugar, mint, and crushed ice. There's a lot of other stuff they do to those julips too. It's it's over 120,000 mint juleps are served during derby weekend. It uses the Kentucky Derby, which our good friend Randy Prassey is a you know a part of every year. It uses about 10 tons of ice and about a thousand pounds of fresh mint. Now that is kind of cool, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:32

Yeah, that's a fun fact, right there.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

Yep. And so Woodford Reserve is the official bourbon of the Kentucky Derby, and it's really kind of cool when you're watching. The commercials are excellent. The you know, the the you know, it really gets the the whole feel for bourbon of what what kind of sewers and how they drink it. You know what I mean? They just it's a sipping thing, you know. You don't get the big party kind of thing, you get that, and so you know, so Woodford is the official bourbon of the Kentucky Derby. It creates a commemorative bottle every year. Some years we see it here in Ohio, and other years all we saw was the julep cup, which was copper or like a brass cup with the bottle. So there was no painting, but I think they had it. Did you see the painting for this year, Super Nash?

SPEAKER_02 19:28

No, I did not. I hadn't had a chance, been so busy. Uh let me just got some fun facts on Woodford Reserve. VF acquired the LeBron and Graham Distillery in approximately 1994-1995 and reconstructed it today to today's distillery, which later changed its name to Woodford Reserve Distillery. It opened up in 1996 when old Allesley Brown, Allesley Brown, and Kentucky Governor Paul Patterson both signed the first barrel fuel. However, you can find it on the shelf that same day. Let me know if you'd like to know how that can happen.

SPEAKER_01 20:11

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

So I know you have Woodford, and I'm drinking wood casks or barrel-proof wood wood double oak, wood for double oak.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

Now we're drinking the regular wood reserved Kentucky Derby commimic bottle.

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And it's at 90.4 proof, both both editions that I have.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

150th running and the 151st running of the Kentucky Derby.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

So I have last year's batch right here of that that I was on the pick for the Kentucky Bourbon Festival. So I I'm gonna throw that in the pewter derby cup. I'm not mixing up a drink. You got me, you're in your you and your Dr. Pepper, man. Holy man.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

Those things were awesome.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Oh, not only awesome, but it's not fair. They were like, they they were like, I would say, like a bulldozer leveling me.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

Yeah. I I I guess that it's that extra ounce that I throw in there to kick it up. Instead of two ounces.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

I would say I had between the I honestly, that that uh Elijah Craig 15, that's going in my that's that's my bourbon of the year so far. I think it's my bourbon of the year. It could be my bourbon of the decade.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

I'd like to put that up against I'm telling you, yeah, it's uh it's delicious.

SPEAKER_01 21:59

You know, that's we're we're in our seventh season. When we're in our 10th season in a couple years, we should have the Scotchy Bourbon Boys bourbon of their decade.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Bourbon of the decade.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Yeah, 10 years of the Scotchy Bourbon Boys. Yeah, that would be a lot of fun that year. This one, I like this pick. I like the the the the cast strength one or a barrel proof one was was good, but this one is drinking. I think that that proof of 94.2. Yes. 92.4? 92.4, yes. 46.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

I have to make a trophy for that. I got a few of those cups right there, like you got right there. And uh I think I'll take it. Mount to a nice piece of oak oak wood. Then attach a bottle on top of it. Like a wood fruit reserve. Or whatever, whatever close to a bourbon of the decade will be, that's the bottle that'll go on top.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

So on the Derby day, and just like on Super Bowl, they have the mint juleps, right? And they've got the old fashions and everything. Do you think the derby is a bourbon sipping day? You know, drinking it neat, or do you think it's more about the cocktails?

SPEAKER_02 23:25

I think it's more about the cocktails.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

I think when you're wearing one of those hats, you gotta drink a it's not. If you're holding a whiskey on the rocks or your whatever, it's not, it doesn't do it justice. I think the hats just bring you into the cocktail.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

Everybody there, everybody there that says dress to the nons, you know, whether it be a suit or a dress, and then also with their hats, too. Yeah, you're you're pretty much, you know, your your cocktails most all day. So I've got some derby. One second.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

Greg's Greg Snyder's favorite mint Jewick recipe. Blend your muddled mint with the sugar syrup, pour it over your glass on fresh dice, walk over to the window and throw that shit outside. Pour your great bourbon in the glass and sip the bourbon. I'm with you, brother. I am with you on that one.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah, Matt, Matt Lisen was saying that he that he really likes the maker's mark bottle of mint julep and whatever. And I'm just, I'm not a mint.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

I know so uh my wife, Mrs. Super Nash, she she likes that maker's mark mint julep bottle pre-mixed stuff. Yeah, I'm not a fan. She breaks it out around Christmas, I think, just because of the green and the red. Yeah, and uh I know it's not for the whiskey, whiskey drinking side. I'm like Greg, toss that shit out the window.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

All right, so there's some derby legends. Like there, the horses to mention are Secretariat in 1973 ran the fastest derby ever. American Pharaoh in 2015 ended the 37-year drought of uh Triple Crown, right? And then Justify 2018 undefeated Triple Crown winner, and Secretariat still holds the Derby speed record at one minute 59 seconds, 59.40 seconds. That's pretty quick, wouldn't you say?

SPEAKER_02 25:39

Yeah, yeah, I think it's just like a second off of being at the two-minute mark, just under the second off under the two-minute mark.

SPEAKER_01 25:48

Yeah, 0.60. Nobody, I don't think anybody else cracks the two-minute mark. You know, there's not a lot. He's got that, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:56

Yeah.

Watching At Home Versus Going Live

SPEAKER_01 25:56

All right, so one of the cool things, you know, about the the Derby that adds and that modern day has really, in my opinion, brought out to everybody is the fact that let's see. You can actually place your bets and watch on TV. Now, I will contend that watching on TV is better than watching at the race itself, especially if you're on the infield. I don't think the views, and I've been at races at, or you know, I don't care. I think you got to go once. I would like to do that. I've never been to Churchill Downs. I mean, I think we know the person that would help us get there, but I think that, you know, one year we all should do it, you know, through the Scotchy Bourbon Boys, because I'd like to just experience it. But I'm gonna tell you, I've been to the races before, and honestly, it's kind of like you're in the when you're in the stands, the starting gate's far away. You kind of don't see much now. If you're you know, there's 50-yard line seats, right? Don't you agree? They're they're they're there where you get to see the finish.

SPEAKER_02 27:30

They've got seating of all different levels uh at that place. That's that's a great thing about it.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Well, it you can have it at yeah, the infield, whatever, at reasonable, but you know, I would like it's just kind of like you get to actually place the bet right there. You can do it with cash, you can do it with credit card, whatever. I when I used to game when I used to go to the races in Illinois, we used to go to the track right in right there by what was it, half day road. I think they've closed it since, but we used to go there, Arlington Park. We used to go to Arlington Park, and there were there was a cool experience of going, it was whatever, but but to watch the Derby on TV now and the way they can cover it with the I mean with the drone coverage and everything. I mean, it's it's it's an event on TV that's un you know you know, same thing. You go to a football game, it's fun to watch, but you don't get the coverage you do on TV. 85 inch TV, that's you know, same thing.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

So uh Greg said uh drink it how you like it. For 20 plus years of going to the Derby, I would buy one mint tulip, which took one took one big sip of the straw. The rest of the day, I would pull out my miniatures of old boys, denwall turkey in later years and fill my glass and put fresh dice back up numerous times. That's the way to do it right there.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

So if we go a little bit, we can ask Greg this question. Woodford Reserve, in my opinion, and correct me if I'm wrong, Greg, is one of the few combination pot still, column still blends that is produced in in the United States as a bourbon. Because we know the bourbon comes, they they have those giant pot stills at Woodford that they actually they run. They when I when I went there in 2019 and and you know had my first Kentucky mule. That's where I had a Kentucky mule there. I still have the the glass from the mule, but I will tell you that those stills, they had three, now they've got nine. So they do use them. So I believe that's what this is. What why are you what are you guys whispering about? The deuces.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

No, I said mine will be a sleeping bow is his past his bed tough. Okay, so what that's what he was talking about. He said, I'm gonna see what time the race is turn. I I gotta go to sleep. No, okay, get him. That's why we call them old whiskey.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

That's right.

Betting Terms Long Shots And Big Wins

SPEAKER_02 30:25

That's what old whiskey is.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Well, uh, I have so so what how the betting can happen, but basically you can bet on a horse to win. You can you can bet on a horse to win place, and you can bet on a whole the horses to win place and show. So when you do your you your odds go up of of what you can win if you can predict first, second, and third place, or first, second, or first. I I I've always felt that I would always go to the races and they would have they when when you go to the races, there's multiple races happening. So when you the first race and then the and then then the premier race is your last race, but I always would bet on the daily double, where if you could get the winner, two the two winners on the first two races, you then would have a lot of money to bet on the rest of the race. And so that happened to me. I think I went 10 times, and I think two times I walked away. I never lost a lot, but the two times I won the daily double, that was a lot of fun because I think the one time it gave me the one horse that I picked was uh one in one in 50 odds. And that one, I think I had a I think the first after I won the daily double. I think I had I I started out with 40 bucks and I had 1200. By getting that that got that in there. So after 1200, I think I went home that day with 900. I won a couple more times, but you know, seven races. I think there were seven races. So by the time it was over, I lost a couple, you know.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

But so that's kind of how sports days, too. I mean, our our friend Greg's our friend Greg said everyone should attend the Kentucky Derby at least once. Truly a spine chilling experience. Still waiting to see a horse like secretariat.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Yeah, I mean, last year was really kind of cool which horses, you know, and how they went about and whatever and what they were doing, and just got to watch the whole thing. This year, I'm gonna be at the Ohio Ben on it last year.

SPEAKER_02 32:52

I had the first place horse and I had the third place horse, and I missed out picking the second place horse. But that would have been a nice ticket to score on.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Well, the first place horse had it was it had decent odds to win, and I I like I said, I think I I put a$10 bet, and I had a hundred, it was ten to one. So I I I got a hundred dollars on my app still. I downloaded it that day, I placed the bet, and it's on there and it's and I haven't looked at I today. I was just yesterday, last night, I'm like, really? It's a whole nother year that fast. It's it doesn't seem like it. So that's kind of cool. So now comes, you know, because now it's kind of like with with horse racing, the betting's really kind of this.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

Uh the barrel that Olivery and Governor Patton signed was dumped in 2002. Six years old. During that six years, the Woodford on the shelf was 7.5 year old old forester.

SPEAKER_01 34:00

Yep, to start off. Yeah, but now, now there's I still contend how they get this flavor is a combination between the pot the old forester and their Woodford. I think they're produced to produce, I don't think they produce enough with the amount of Woodford reserve that's out in the market, those pot stills are not producing that. They're producing the part of it, and then the others being still produced in Louisville at their Louisville distillery. That's my guess. Everybody says what it is is now who gave you that fact?

SPEAKER_02 34:40

That was Greg.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Yeah, we I I've heard that before. Now, for the fun of it, I've got the double double oak. Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

I like that bottle. Yeah, uh, you and my brother got together and gave me for my birthday last year.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Yes. The Marcus.

SPEAKER_02 35:06

Yeah, yeah. I was kind of sad.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

Yeah, yeah. That was a fun, that was a fun day. Got this.

SPEAKER_10 35:16

That was an interesting day. I'll say that when you're going to be a good one. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

You st I think you still have scars if you take off your shirt, Nash.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

Uh let's let's move along there.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

Move along. We have moved along. So, anyways, so there's when you're betting, a favorite versus long shot. I don't think it's fun to bet the favorites. I think it's fun to pick the long shots. I mean, if you bet the favorites, if you bet, you let's just say you put down a$30 bet and then when you get$35. I mean, some it's you know, it's just not so most of the people when you're betting, I always feel that you know the long shots win from time to time. I think in I think two years ago, the long shot won. Not last year, but the year before. Yeah, yeah, I think he won.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

Yeah, he won. And he bet like a thousand dollars. Uh Greg said uh he sent two ten dollar exacta box bets with his son today who went to the Thurby, and he said both hit, but didn't pay as much as he had hoped for. Uh win's a win. Absolutely right.

Odds Board And Host Derby Picks

SPEAKER_01 36:31

Yep, that's how it works. All right, so it's time now for us to give you our locks for the Kentucky.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Roxy said uh she really needs a drink after this day.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Yeah, I I'm saying it's uh time for our picture. Tell Roxy she should come down and get one.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

Come on down.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

All right, so here's the here's the field that everybody I'm gonna share up the field. All right, and this, here we go. Where is it? There it is. Share. Alright. So are you guys seeing it? We can see the top line.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

All we can see is the very top line.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

How about that? Hold on. How's that?

SPEAKER_02 37:30

There you go, that's it right there.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Alright, so the the odds on favorite right now is Renegade. He's and he's in the pole position, right? And then the next two that are is six to one is command commandment, and six to one is further ado. And then you have Chief Wallaby at eight to one, and then you've got the Puma at 10 to 1. Now, let's see, you got 50, let's see, is there is that 15? Yeah, you got so happy, and you've got emerging market at 15 to 1. You've got at 20 to 1 now, you've got silent tactic, potente, right? Yeah, that's right, and Dan and Bourbon. So there's the the only bourbon named horse in this, right? So then you go from and and also at 20 to 1, you have full effort. So after that, and and Incredible is at 20 to 1 also. So we've got one, two, three, four, five, five at 20 to 1. And then it goes to 30 to 1, where Albus in the in the number two position, Littmith's test in the number four position, right to party, which sounds like a fun one at 30 to 1. And then you've got Wonder Dean at 30 to 1. And then you've got Pavilion Po Pavlovian at 30 to 1 and Golden Temple at 30 to 1. And then after that, you've got the 50 to 1 is six speed at the 17th position and Intrepido, those are the last two horses. So I think we've covered. Yep. So my pick to win, and I have a very specific way to do it, is I'm picking further ado at 6 to 1 to win. Now, who do you have to win?

SPEAKER_02 40:07

Why do you pick? Why do you pick further ado?

SPEAKER_01 40:10

And I did a little research on the horse and the and and the owner, but I also pick further ado because I have way that when I saw when I see these, I basically do have a test. And and when I saw all the all the horses, I didn't I I had a chart with no odds. And the first horse that I picked based off of it was further ado. The second horse was commandment, and the third horse was golden tempo. So that those are my first, second, and third to to place. But I'll put the I'll put the bet on further ado.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Okay, for my winning to win, I'm picking commandment, and then to place, I'm picking so happy at 15 to 1 odds, and then to show, I am picking renegade at 4 to 1 odds. Commandment, so happy, and renegade. Okay. Win, place, and show.

SPEAKER_10 41:18

I got chief wallaby to win. Right to party is my long shot to place, and where was the other the puma will be my podium.

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Very all right, everybody. It's I left I left it up there. Let's hit that stop share. You guys are back up. All right, that's kind of cool. There we go. I mean, that's that's us of what we're picking. If you wrote them down, we'll talk about that coming up this Tuesday. And let me get this back up, okay? So what if you so you gotta take your winners? I picked further ado. Super Natch, you picked Commandment, who I picked in second, and Marcus picked Cheap Wallet. So if you gotta pair a bourbon with your winner, like if they win, what bourbon you drink it? I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_10 42:24

For me, it's gonna be old forester.

SPEAKER_01 42:27

You're gonna you're gonna have an old forester with with absolutely I think if if he wins, the Indians should change their the commanders should change their or no. It's the oh my god. I mean, even have it's not the commanders race.

SPEAKER_10 42:44

See, then that would be a good one for for the for the chief wallaby.

SPEAKER_01 42:47

Yeah, but but the Indians used to are now the guardians. So the guardians, if if Chief Wallaby wins, then the Indian, the the I just said what they are, have to change their name. The Guardians have to change their their name back to the Indians.

SPEAKER_02 43:07

They uh I mean I was uh uh Greg said he's betting one bet on the Derby. A five dollar, a five horse, one dollar triumph a box cost sixty dollars. He did it last year and it paid$231 with favorites running one, two, and three.

unknown 43:26

Cool. So who did he pick?

SPEAKER_02 43:31

He said also said a red Ortiz wrote further ado to win the bluegrass states and the runa and renegade to win the Arkansas Derby. Arad chose to ride Renegade in the Derby. Oh, cool fun fact.

SPEAKER_01 43:49

Yep. Last year I think the jockey on the one that's leading collar being so quiet. All right, yeah. Well, I will thank you for them being uh thank them for being quiet.

SPEAKER_10 44:03

It's my son and grandson. They they're typically not quiet.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

I know, I know, and that's why I thank them. So and they're back, so there you go. The Derby is called Run for the Roses, and it's the first leg of the triple crown. For anybody who doesn't know, then you have the Preak Preakness and the Belmont Stakes. Last year's winner of the Kentucky Derby didn't even run the Preakness. He he was out, so no chance of a triple crown. So we're pretty much getting close. Saturday, whether you're holding a betting slip or a Glen Cairn, it you ever just know you're part of something bigger. It's like this is bourbon country, this is horse country, this is tradition, that is what is Kentucky for the Churchill Downs, from Churchill Downs to your living room, this is what it's all about. And we are the Scotchy Bourbon Boys, and we'll see you on the finish line.

Closing Toast And Where To Listen

SPEAKER_10 45:07

So thank y'all for letting me join. Cheers, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

Yep, and then Nash, I'd let you do this, but you know, you could you want to take us out and you want to do the www.scotchy bourbon boy thing, or do you want me to do it?

SPEAKER_02 45:24

You can do it. I don't got any of my props or anything.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

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SPEAKER_10 46:10

So the bourbon balls that I got at Christmas were the most enjoyed gift that I gave out. Everybody loves it. Probably the best balls you put in your mouth, right?

SPEAKER_01 46:22

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